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88 thoughts on “Ce sa faci cand nu ai ce face

  1. Da, e nasol sa vezi cum ti se fura domeniul .eu cu numele firmei sau brand-ului. Dar cum zicea si zoso, se poate … nu o fi detinatorul acelui domeniu un “creator”, dar cel putin s-a gandit sa il cumpere mai devreme. Oricum foarte nasol … vezi daca poti sa il mituiesti 😛

  2. Eu nu cred ca se poate. Nu legal.
    Nu si-a facut doar un site cu numele unei firme (desi nici asta nu era ok). Din ce vad acolo, se vrea chiar o firma (au lista de preturi pt servicii!), ofirma cu cu acelasi nume, acelasi domeniu de activitate, din aceeasi tara.

    Ma opresc aici ca nu sunt specialist, dar ar trebui consultat unul.

  3. dar hai sa luam jumatatea plina a paharului…ar trebui sa te simti bine ca ceva ce ai creat tu merita copiat nu?
    si inca o intrebare..cum s-a ajuns la denumirea de kinecto?
    suna f bine!

  4. Da, e nasol sa vezi cum ti se fura domeniul .eu cu numele firmei sau brand-ului.

    Nu s-a furat nimic. Exagerezi.

    A existat sandbox-ul pt domeniile EU. Daca Radu vroia sa isi rezerve un domeniu .EU pt firma/brandul lui, o putea face atunci. Nu a facut-o.

  5. situatia sta in felul urmator… kinecto este un nume nascocit bine. spun asta pentru ca l-am dat pe Google.com (nu ro) si in primele 10 pagini de raspunsuri marea majoritate a rezultatelor faceau legatura cu Kinecto Permission Marketing. Undeva sub 5 raspunsuri se refereau la nou infiintatul domeniu kinecto.eu.

    suntem intr-un moment in care orice brand nou este verificat pe Google, la RNC.ro, Register.com etc inainte sa fie adoptat. Motivul? Vrei sa ai si domeniul web cu numele brandului tau!

    ma gandesc ca italianul care a luat domeniul .eu a verificat inainte si a vazut ca exista deja o firma pe piata locala cu acelasi nume si care intamplator face acelasi lucru.

    am verificat cateva branduri romanesti pe http://www1.whois.eu si am aflat ca Rompetrol, Dacia, Petrom, de exemplu, nu si-au finalizat inregistrarea. deci e posibil ca la un moment dat sa piarda rezervarea pentru ca au uitat ca au un deadline. cristian, ti se pare normal ca o alta companie care activeaza pe piata locala sa inregistreze unul dintre cele trei domenii pe motiv ca s-a miscat mai repede?

    daca italianul respectiv nu ar fi avut business-uri si in Romania, as fi facut misto de Radu ca intram in UE si pierde clienti importanti, dar in cazul de fata mi se pare ca e un furt cu nerusinare. evident, radule, trebuia sa te misti si tu mai repede ca doar traiesti pe net!

    din pacate, nu stiu daca radu mai poate face ceva acum…

    ps: intr-o situatie neplacuta este arctic, care deja e un brand european, domeniul .eu fiind deja inregistrat de o apa minerala din polonia.

  6. Cred ca chestia asta cu .eu tine mai mult de Web-Fashion decat de o necesitare reala. Deocamdata…

    In viitor da. Cand o sa fie o piata europeana bine conturata why not!

    Hmm cat despre Kinecto. Cat timp nu ai inregistrat international Kinecto orice are dreptul sa il foloseasca si in Italia si In Franta. Deci daca in viitor o sa fie 10 firme Kinecto in 10 tari diferite nu e nici o problema decat pana in momentul cand unul din ei inregistreaza la Oficiul de la Geneva si porneste procedurile pentru recunoasterea marcii pe plan international.

  7. In cazul de fata chiar nu stiu ce poate fi facut. Avand in vedere ca este si in limba romana varianta e clar ca are o legatura cu Kinecto-ul lui Radu.

  8. cristian, ti se pare normal ca o alta companie care activeaza pe piata locala sa inregistreze unul dintre cele trei domenii pe motiv ca s-a miscat mai repede?

    Normalitatea este definita de fiecare entitate, in functie de target si profit, precum si de planurile de viitor. Degeaba imi spun eu parerea.

    Am o problema similara cu detinatorul unui trademark international, al carui domeniu .ro a fost inregistrat de catre un student la facultate, din simplul motiv ca detinatorii trademark-ului inca nu activau in Romania (si eu nu s-au gandit ca cineva le-ar inregistra domeniul: DOH!).

    Ulterior achizitionarii domeniului .ro de la terta persoana (prin amabilitate reciproca, fara procese and stuff, pt. ca oricum era castigat din start), le-am oferit o lista cu cele 100 si ceva de TLD-uri internationale, care le detin ei deja si care nu. Au fost stupefiati cand au aflat cum “.co.uk”, “.de”, “.it”, “.net”, “.org” etc. fusesera luate deja de parteneri, afiliati, terte persoane samd. Bineinteles ca imediat au cumparat tot ce era disponibil (restul), din lista (inclusiv .eu). Invatatura de minte.

    Scuze daca am fost acid mai devreme. Parerea mea: este partial si “vina” Kinecto ca nu s-a gandit sa inregistreze domeniul EU, inca de acum 8-9 luni. Este o perioada foarte lunga de timp in care nu s-a facut nimic. Si cum bine spui, Radu este ONLINE.

    din pacate, nu stiu daca radu mai poate face ceva acum…

    Bineinteles ca poate, insa numai in cazul in care Kinecto este un trademark deja inregistrat sau in curs de aprobare (care poate dura ani de zile, in functie de zona de aplicabilitate, eg. tara, continent etc, precum si tipul trademark-ului: logo, scris, auditiv etc).

    ps: intr-o situatie neplacuta este arctic, care deja e un brand european, domeniul .eu fiind deja inregistrat de o apa minerala din polonia.

    Daca ambele sunt trademark-uri in Uniunea Europeana, cei care gestioneaza TLD-ul .EU specifica in clar: “First come, first served”.

    Am si eu dreptate sau nu ? :)

    PS: Scuze pentru comentariul lung, dar am simtit nevoia sa elaborez.

  9. cristian, ti se pare normal ca o alta companie care activeaza pe piata locala sa inregistreze unul dintre cele trei domenii pe motiv ca s-a miscat mai repede?

    Normalitatea este definita de fiecare entitate, in functie de target si profit, precum si de planurile de viitor. Degeaba imi spun eu parerea.

    Am o problema similara cu detinatorul unui trademark international, al carui domeniu .ro a fost inregistrat de catre un student la facultate, din simplul motiv ca detinatorii trademark-ului inca nu activau in Romania (si eu nu s-au gandit ca cineva le-ar inregistra domeniul: DOH!).

    Ulterior achizitionarii domeniului .ro de la terta persoana (prin amabilitate reciproca, fara procese and stuff, pt. ca oricum era castigat din start), le-am oferit o lista cu cele 100 si ceva de TLD-uri internationale, care le detin ei deja si care nu. Au fost stupefiati cand au aflat cum “.co.uk”, “.de”, “.it”, “.net”, “.org” etc. fusesera luate deja de parteneri, afiliati, terte persoane samd. Bineinteles ca imediat au cumparat tot ce era disponibil (restul), din lista (inclusiv .eu). Invatatura de minte.

    Scuze daca am fost acid mai devreme. Parerea mea: este partial si “vina” Kinecto ca nu s-a gandit sa inregistreze domeniul EU, inca de acum 8-9 luni. Este o perioada foarte lunga de timp in care nu s-a facut nimic. Si cum bine spui, Radu este ONLINE.

    din pacate, nu stiu daca radu mai poate face ceva acum…

    Bineinteles ca poate, insa numai in cazul in care Kinecto este un trademark deja inregistrat sau in curs de aprobare (care poate dura ani de zile, in functie de zona de aplicabilitate, eg. tara, continent etc, precum si tipul trademark-ului: logo, scris, auditiv etc).

    ps: intr-o situatie neplacuta este arctic, care deja e un brand european, domeniul .eu fiind deja inregistrat de o apa minerala din polonia.

    Daca ambele sunt trademark-uri in Uniunea Europeana, cei care gestioneaza TLD-ul .EU specifica in clar: “First come, first served”.

    Am si eu dreptate sau nu ? :)

    PS: Scuze pentru comentariul lung, dar am simtit nevoia sa elaborez.

  10. Radu, banuiesc ca te-ai informat in legatura cu activitatea firmei respective si cunosti mai multe detalii. Personal, la prima vedere, mie imi suna a concurenta parazitara. Eu zic sa incerci sa ii arzi.

  11. problema lui radu e ca italianul nu a scos in fata brandul kinecto din ce imi dau eu seama, cred ca acum foloseste doar domeniul kinecto.eu fara sa promoveze un brand kinecto. in cazul de fata e mai greu sa faca ceva, dar probabil nu imposibil. un avocat ar sti mai bine.

    si inca o dovada ca italianul a facut-o cu buna stiinta. cand intri pe site ajungi direct in versiunea in engleza, unde esti intampinat cu Who is Kinecto? cand faci switch pe romana, ti se spune Ce ofera SEO Romania?

  12. Discutati de pomana motivele sau justificarile din spatele unui asemenea sit.
    Este cybersquatting curat, si pana nu exista legi rezonabile asupra cybersquattingului si typosquattingului, internetul se va tot umple de asemenea paraziti. Chiar mai deunazi am aflat de un cybersquatting asupra numelui meu, care numai brand-abil sau intregistrabil nu este….

  13. Daca a inregistrat cele doua domenii nu inseamna neaparat ca se ocupa cu vinterapie sau agroturism. Este probabil sa fie o persoana din Romania, care are un prieten in Italia si l-a rugat sa inregistreze diferite domenii.

    Este defapt efectul restrictiei de inregistrare. Acum cred ca o sa-mi sun prietenii din UE sa-mi inregistreze si mie domeniile.

  14. eu sunt curios, daca am firma Kinetco inregistrata in romania si vine unu si inregistreaza firma Vinuri Kinetco si vinde tot sandale ca mine, pot sa il dau in judecata pentru indentity theft?

  15. Sigur ca e frustrant ce ti s-a intamplat… dar pana la urma cel mai tare o sa ramana in viata si brandul lui va fi cel cunoscut si recunoscut. Daca reusesti sa te impui si logo-ul tau sa ramana intiparit in mintea oamenilor, atunci kineto.eu va avea valoare 0 barat. Eu iti doresc succes!

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